On today’s host Shawn Murray speaks with Pam Fusco, the founder and CEO of the Information Counter Exploitation Second Gen aka ICE 2. She is also the chief financial officer for ISSA and former US Navy cryptologist. Pam has also served on the US Presidential White House and held positions as CISO of some major companies. She uses her personal background to talk about the growth of information technologies and risk over the years and how to solve some of the issues professionals in the cyber industry might come across. The two really open up about certain technologies that they feel are disrupting cyber professionals in their everyday workplace, touching on the extreme growth of mobile devices and there functionality with things like facial recognition. Listen as Pam and Shawn speak about the how the cyber industry needs to grow in order to stay on top of these devices in order to protect data and other personal information.